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Lisa

Hi guys,

Hope all is well...

Most of u probably know this already but just thought I’d mention Osbanis (Cuban teacher/dancer) is teaching at Fiesta Havana tonight (Wednesday 22nd February) doing a one off workshop. Osbanis is a highly acclaimed dancer and teacher and performs/teaches all over the world...

I know a lot of people went to Callaghan’s when he came here to Cardiff. I think he’s a fantsatic teacher and dancer and he makes dancing so much fun!

I would definately recommend people going over the bridge to the class tonight. It won’t just be Cuban style, there will be a whole mix of styles.

Hope to see people there!

Lisa

Brendan
Member

How was it? They seem to get good teachers in to Fiesta Havana pretty often but I’m never too convinced by the music at the club afterwards. It seems to just turn into reggaeton or similar by about 11:30 which I’m not that keen on. It seems popular enough but not really my sort of thing. Is it just me? It’s a shame as otherwise it’s usually a good night.

Brendan

el Diablito
Member

It’s not for me to make a comment on the quality of the music played... I’ll leave that to you guys! But I’d like to respond to the thread above if only to correct an apparent misconception.

Salsa is very much a generic term and there are many musically distinct variations that qualify to be called Salsa. As with all art forms we each have our favourite but thankfully we don’t all share the same opinion as to what qualifies as good music or not... It would be a pretty boring world if we did!

The more recent variations in the Salsa genre that have appeared are, the fusions of R&B, Hip Hop and Reggaeton into Salsa. This type of Salsa naturally does have the feel of the above but are not pure versions of the above; it is still most definitely Salsa.

You’d be correct in saying that we play Reggaeton in the club on a Wednesday night but it does give a false impression to state that we play Reggaeton at about 11.30pm in Club Cuba on the first floor (the Salsa room).

To clarify what our policy is (musically) after the classes finish...

We play all kinds of Latin Club Music including Reggaeton, R&B and Hip Hop on the ground floor with Nigel; these are pure versions of the above and little or no Salsa is played.

But we play 100% Salsa in Club Cuba on the first floor of Fiesta Havana with the exception of the odd Merengue, Bachata or Cha Cha Cha track at least until 1am when most of the Salsa crowd have left and / or when the ground floor is closed. We then play to suit the remaining crowd, which can and often does, include pure Reggaeton but equally it can be Salsa.

We set out from the beginning to create a nightclub as authentic as you might find in Latin America or the Latin Quarter in the United States. We think of ourselves as a Nightclub with Classes rather than a Dance school with dance practice. Although it’s fair to say we bring to the South West some of the headline names as far as teachers are concerned. We probably attract more people than any other club in the South West many of which are Latin and I think that says something about our authenticity regarding the music we play, if nothing else!

Finally (1) we always try to vary our music from country to country - classic to modern - romantic to Salsa duro but we always try to keep it funky / clubby... I know this won’t enamour the purists (of whatever type) to us but it does make Salsa more accessible to more people and that can only be a good thing. (2) If ever I’m not playing the type of Salsa you prefer to listen to / dance to, please come and request a tune or at least a type of tune and I’ll be happy to play it for you. But please be aware that I rarely play any type (whatever that type may be) for more than two or three tunes, before a change of direction!

Hugh
Admin

I don’t go to your events because my experience has been that you play the music far too loud. I did mention it to you once but I just got shrugged at.

el Diablito
Member

Fair comment Hugh, I appreciate that for you the music might be a little on the loud side but in my defence I would say that I play the music at the level you’d expect to find, and equally importantly at a volume the management would expect, in a standard city centre nightclub and, as I was trying to explain in the previous post, clubbers are the clientele we market ourselves towards. I don’t remember shrugging my shoulders at you... I wouldn’t ordinarily be that rude, but if I did without provocation then I apologise.

Tom
Member

I haven’t found the volume a problem at Fiesta Havana, certainly not upstairs anyway - and I don’t like clubs that are too loud.

Brendan
Member

I think you do a good job of promoting a latin club and the fact that you’ve been going consistently for so long whilst all the other evening that were running when you started have now stopped demonstrates that. I would say that the music you play also fits with a latin club - it’s just not my thing. I’ll admit that most of what you play is more along the lines of salsa fusions than straight reggaeton or R&B. I’m probably more of a purist though and to me the music played seems to be closer to what you would hear in at a latin club night rather than a salsa night. That’s based on a possibly fairly limited experience of clubs here in the UK but also in the US (New York, Washington and Philadelphia). It goes down well with most of the people that go though and that’s who you’re playing to. I have had at least one other person mention to me that they don’t go as often because of the music though and thought I would raise the point.

el Diablito
Member

Hi Brendan,

I didn’t think your critique was unfair toward us, I do understand that you were raising a point as to your personal preferences regarding Salsa. I did think however that I needed to correct what could be read as a misconception i.e. That we play Latin Club Music (Reggaeton etc) rather than Salsa...

If you need further convincing that it is Salsa we play (albeit different forms including fusions) then take a look at the Latinos in the Club they’ll generally dance Salsa to Salsa and Reggaeton to Reggaeton, unlike us Brits who tend to dance Salsa to everything. I’m sure if we played God save the Queen there’d be someone trying to squeeze a Salsa out of it. And if that doesn’t convince you then pop over to Romeo Browns on a Sunday from 10pm till 3am where we run a Latin Club Night i.e. No Salsa and it’ll become very clear to you the difference between the two. You’ll also find less Brits than you would at a Salsa night, but you would find many of the Latinos that you see at Salsa.

I’d just like to add by saying (and I’m guessing here) that that type of music you like Brendan (what you’d probably describe as proper Salsa) is in fact New York Salsa i.e. Jazz influenced Salsa / Mambo. That which is fuelling the current cross body style of Salsa in the US & Europe.

Although the above qualifies to be termed as Salsa and as important as it is, especially to us here in the UK, it is only a percentage of what is played globally as Salsa, and as such is no more pure or correct than the fusions that are being played by new and established bands alike!

Cheers

nathalie
Member

El diablito - I’m going off on a slightly different tangent here but want to grab this opportunity to pick up on a posting you put here a few weeks back regarding starting a night up in cardiff - any more thoughts on this??
Thanks
Nat x
(ps I always enjoy the times I come to FH - just the fact that a cardiff based salsa website has a discussion (and not just one single discussion) regarding your venue shows that it is a popular venue - if it wasn’t, people wouldn’t travel across the bridge for it!) cheers for now x

Lisa

Yes El diablito, I’m with Nat... have u guys decided to come over to cardiff again?

I think that would be absoutley fantastic!

I come to Fiesta Havana regularly and was there weds just gone and had a wonderful time!

I never think the music is too loud and if its got a beat, I’ll dance to it! I love the fact you play a diverse range of music, I love all forms of latin dance... well except merengue... but that’s more because of the fact I can’t do it!

I would recommend your night to anyone, particularly because, if nothing else, the standard of teaching is so high and its a very friendly atmosphere.

Please come to cardiff!! Xx

Lisa

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