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Hugh
Admin

I deleted this topic by mistake, so I had to restore it from the Google cache. That’s why the message times are so close. It was actually started by Mini on July 18, 2005.

Mini

Tell me the truth... what is the best venue?

A lot on people have advised me that Bristol is the place to go. Many people are fed up with the Cardiff sceen. It seems that the fun has gone!!

When I first started (many moons ago!) I just went to dance, meet people and have a laugh. What has happened to that in Cardiff?

Nowadays it seems that everybody has some bitchy remark to say... but never to that person’s face. I thought it was about having fun... but if you step in the wrong place your told off and God help you if you sweat!!! Everybody seems to date each other, split up and go on to the next. Did I miss the keys being left on the dance floor?

When I speak to people in Bristol they say Cardiff is better. What is your view on this?

passionate salsera
Member

Hey mini,

U know, I think it’s very much about personal choice... I know people who like Bristol and Cardiff and some who go to both... I think it’s good to go to both as u meet different people and it makes a nice change.

It can get very dull sticking to the same place... same faces etc and u know who can and can’t dance so it does tend to take the fun away.

Cardiff does tend to be a little clicky but most of us are there to dance and have fun... and some of us i.e. Me, don’t mind sweat and would be more than happy to say something to your face asnd not behind your back.

I know what u mean about the whole dating thing... it’s like being back at school!! I made a complete blunder the other week and caused mass arguments between people, but hey ho, like u say, it’s all fun and games!!

Enjoy yourself and be happy and when u get bored of one place, move onto the next... but be sure to come back tho!

Sorry for the ramble... I love Cardiff and the people but it’s good to expand your horizons!

Mini

Hello passionate salsera,

I think you are right... it is good to expand your hozizons.

It may be time to move onto Bristol and see some new faces. Where do you advise to go in Bristol?

I am getting bored of Cardiff salsa... after all, I left school a long time ago!

el Diablito
Member

Hi Mini

I’d just like to put in a good word for Cardiff...

I suppose it’s fair to say that things could be different now and I wouldn’t really know, as I don’t make it over that often! But I can honestly say that it was always a pleasure when I did.

Sadly it does seem that the Cardiff crowd supports Salsa in Bristol better than the Bristol crowd support Salsa in Cardiff. Nigel and I do make it over occasionally and not always for work, but after 10 years doing this and also with running three full-on nights in Bristol it’s kind of like a busman’s holiday for me to go anywhere these days. I don’t want to lose my enthusiasm and therefore on nights off prefer to do something other than Salsa.

To answer your question though, I believe that neither City is superior to the other when it comes to the Salsa scene... They are both friendly and welcoming and you’re sure to have a good night out in either. I think the previous post is spot on by saying that it is good to expand your horizons and try new things and of course the grass often seems greener etc etc. But for sure some of the nicest memories for me (and believe me I’ve been around – Salsawise) were nights spent over the bridge with you guys.

passionate salsera
Member

Where in Bristol? Well Fiesta Havana always has a good vibe and good reviews... go there on a weds... but to be honest, I’ve not been to bristol for ages! There’s a big salsa do on Friday 29th July in Bristol which I’ll be going to but I can’t remember where it is so I’ll look it up and let u know.

I think also it depends where u go in Cardiff... as I’m sure u are aware u can go to salsa in a different venue every week... I would say The Toad on a thurs is the best in quality of dancers and atmosphere... cuba on a tues is a great laugh but lots of students and barbie dolls blatantly out on the pull and the wharf on a Sunday is great for going over ur basics etc and also has a great atmosphere.

FiFi

I am considered a reasonable dancer and have had some lovely experiences in Bristol, Bath and Oxford where I found the standards and the atmosphere good. At the moment, I find Bristol the best (check out Fiesta Havana, Wednesdays), as it is energetic with some great dancers, who are technically sound, fab to look at, know the basics and have lovely routines. I also think Bath is excellent, with some great venues like the Claverton Rooms (party this Saturday 23rd) and generally on a par with Bristol. Both are very friendly, with no obvious bitchiness etc...

I have good friends who dance in Cardiff and they say that it is very cliquey, but also that they are pleased to be part of it and do try to dance with everyone and anyone. What is also apparent is that the Cardiff dancers are good (tho mostly Cuban... CBLs can be interesting) and usually up for a good time, BUT they can come across as arrogant, as they really do believe that they don’t need to take classes anymore, have nothing to learn and some are overly fussy about who they dance with. However, this is not a fault unique to Cardiff dancers, as I occasionally hear and see this from other parts of the country too... but not as ‘in your face’ as from the Cardiff peeps. Something must be wrong there, as my friends are travelling even more than they used to in search of their next fix and generally slag off the teachers in Cardiff, Newport etc., as lacking in imagination and skill?... but then again if they don’t do classes...

As for the social scene... wake up mini... every time I go out socially in Cardiff (which is reasonably often), it is buzzing with both men and women up for a good time, who afterwards go home to their partners as if nothing has happened, so it’s no surprise if salsa has become like this, since the people are the same. It is a shame tho, because if all you want to do is dance, have your fix and go home happy, sometimes this is spoilt by guys demanding your phone number and pestering you for a date, even if done in a jokey way. It is usually obvious that they are in a relationship and when they fail, move on to the next victim! By the way this doesn’t just apply to the guys from what I’ve seen and heard!

As for me, I just love to dance and if I’m in the mood, the music is in my soul and the guy I’m dancing with is on my wavelength, I’m very expressive and dance in a kind of trance... remember the feeling!!! But I also recall my massive disappointment when one guy I was dancing with in this way (from the Newport area) got soo heavy when he thought I was coming on to him and the girl he was with got irate with me AND both of them turned out to be married, but not to each other! It knocked my confidence for a little while until I realised that it was not me! Unfortunately, this also extends to some of the Cardiff teachers (now ex teachers I believe), who also try it on and I had the embarrassing experience of having to leave the dance floor for the first and only time, when one of them tried to grind himself into me against my will.

Oh and by the way I sweat for Britain... always have, always will... and I am very very fit... so if you Cardiff guys don’t like it TOUGH... it goes with the territory!

At the end of the day salsa is supposed to be fun and provided everyone is respectful of everyone else, no harm done... both men and women should ask for a dance and regardless of the outcome (skill-wise), should be able to say thank you and move on... get a life!

I’m coming to Cardiff soon with a few mates and we intend to visit each of the venues over a few weeks and plan to have a jolly good time. Happy to update you on how that turns out.

Ps Hugh... is that your real name or an alias? Hope to bump into you, if you are hovering near the dance floor!

Pinto

Hello, I would just like to say that I agree with FiFi, She has got a good point.

PEOPLE just dance to have fun!

Mike

Hugh
Admin

Thanks Fifi. What an epistle! Plenty to think about there. Hope we do meet when you are in Cardiff.

FiFi

Thanks Mike and Hugh, glad to get that off my chest. There’s only one kind of fix for me... and that only involves salsa!!!

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