Salsa City Forum » News and Chat » Salsa Competition, 2 August

If you want to make the rules, Wizzy, run your own salsa competition.

Dear Wizzy,

Tammi is a salsa teacher (a very good one), I don’t think she is in ONE!!!

I’m sorry, but where did I miss that Salsa teachers could not enter. My understanding is that other Salsa teachers were there too.

I do not understand the problem!! I have helped out with lessons so I could not enter, is that right? How about a person who has been dancing 2yrs up against one who has danced for 10yrs, is that fair?

Wizzy, when saying Andy & Lucy are the best, that is what you think... Mate, this is not a fact!!!

How about people like Natalie, Kate, Thano, Nigel... How does one judge the best?

I tell you... it is not by listening to you!!!

From what I heard 4 out of the six couples were teachers, one couple get paid to dance as part of a performance group, so if it wasn’t for these there would have been no comp at all! The fact that two girls won dancing togther is great and we should be proud to have good dancers in Cardiff as people are always saying the standard here is lower than anywhere else! Speaking to people today who were at the comp, they said that the couple who won attempted some complex lifts and dips and deserved to win. So is it a case of one rule for one and one rule for everybody else? It was all fair!

Hey Wizzy,

Did you enter any of the salsa competitions that you have been to?

You have so much to say about them...

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU DANCE!!

Errr Mini (and we all know what a mini is a nick-name for don’t we??) Andy IS the best - don’t be daft. There have been plenty of previous threads highlighting this so it is certainly more than my opinion. (Plus - Andy taught Tammi Duh!)

Regarding 2-step’s comments... This new perspective DOES change things if other people who are paid to teach salsa (ergo professionals)competed then it’s acceptable for a teacher to enter and win but... Were any pupils of the teachers also competing against their MASTEROS? How the hell could they have a chance of winning?

Back to MINI (now I just laugh when I think of your name) You are right that it is not fair for someone of 2 yrs to compete against someone of 10 years... That is why a propper competition has different CATAGORIES. Novice, Beginner, Improver, Advanced, PROFESSIONAL!

Regarding me dancing in salsa competitions - Nah, not my brand of vodka. I’m a competetive Latin/Ballroon dancer where contests are professionally run. If you’d like me to dance with you then I will - but you’d better be good after all your comments - O’Neill’s MONDAY - be there! I’ll be the 5’6" Latin supremo! Take a number and get in line! :-)

Now please - I am not knocking the effort put into running this contest - Well done for organising it, fair play, top marks, congratulations blah blah blah, but from other comments made by Alun and others a LOT more work will have to be done if a future contest is to be held. Decent Advertising, good, reputable judges where there can be no chance of corruption. (I remember that at the Barry competition sponsored by Constantino’s that a Constantino Sister WON it... Hmmmmmm) There must also be an oppourtunity for dancers of all standards to have a chance of winning without having their inexperienced asses kicked by (possibly) their own teachers.

PS - salsa is SALSA - not acrobatics or Rock and Roll. Lifts and Flips do not have a place in a salsa contest. Watch Rafael and Janet (the best in the world IMHO) and they do nothing except DANCE!

Bye for now MINI (hee hee hee)

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So is this a challenge: O’Neill’s Monday be there... I mean come on it sounds like handbags being drawn at dawn to me! And wizzy you know what they say about bragging it really isn’t a very attractive quality! This number I need to take is this, the number of woman running away from you! Oh, and in regards to corruption... you were talking about barry when constantinou won you go on about andy being this that and the other he was majorly involved in the running of that event so maybe you should think twice before you cast stones, as this is a fact there was no corruption as I hardly think that andy would have stood for that. On a final note you seem to think that all the good dancers were taught by only andy there has been a number of teachers such as JC who was favoured by many for his unique style and you can clearly see those who were taught by him, also nigel may and paul who had an impact too you should remember this!

Rafael and Janet mmm... I’m sure their adverts feature him lifting her in the air... but u must be right no place for dips in salsa!!!

Nice answer 2 step. Agreed.

I’ve no problem with Tammi winning if other teachers were competing too. When I heard “salsa competition” I imagined a room full of competitors (1o couples minimum) all of whom were at an approximately equal standard and then Tammi thrashing their pants off! Clearly this din’t happen so my comments are void - I’ll admit that.

My opinions on the subject however have not changed:-

I do NOT believe that anyone who TEACHES dance should be allowed to compete ALONGSIDE (potentially) their students. By taking peoples money it says “I’m of a standard which makes me so good that I can empart my knowledge to others”. I classify this as a professional. The line between Pro / semi pro is VERY thin. Look at Phil Heath (Bath) By day, he is a Network Manager for Bath University, yet he charges for his evening Salsa - his hobby. By dictionary definition he is a “semi-pro” but with 20 years experience, a national reputation, a music collection to rival NAPSTER and enough sound / light equipment to “gig” @ Wembly... He is most certainly 100% a professional salsa teacher and it would not be fair for him to compete against salsa students would it?