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Bloke

So...
I have been dancing for over 2 years and enjoying every minute...
Went dancing in O’Neill’s last night (don’t usually get to go on a Monday anywhere) danced with a lady I have never danced with - we got on well - usual questions...

Where do you dance... How did you get into Dancing... are you able to go to xxxx night this week/ month... do you go to Risa... quality of teachers... yadda yadda

Salsa stuff...

So... even get to talk small talk about how friendly people are and there is nothing behind a dance other than a dance - and a woman can ask a man to dance without meaning anything else... when it struck me that... actually IN THIS CASE... No... there is something totally behind why I’m talking to you... I wanted to ask her out on a date date (not Salsa)...

It wasn’t the fear of rejection that stopped me asking her...

It was the whole “Salsa” thing...
How would I feel about dancing with her...?
Would I get labelled as the guy who is there to pick up women...?
Could I go back dancing there in the future...?

But I didn’t ask her... so... Should I have??
Can Salsa and Dating mix...?
I see guys (and women) that have been dancing for years that I know are single -
Ironically - when I was a beginner I thought it was a great way to meet women... now I feel like its a physical version of Bromide...

So - come on...

Feedback please...

Lisa

That good ole question??!

What do you think the answer is? If you like the girl, ask her out!... but to be very honest... In my experience... salsa and dating is always complicated for so many reasons.

Saying that, I do know some couples who make it work but the majority I know don’t.

I wouldn’t worry what anyone else says or thinks... the salsa scene is very fake and superficial and full of gossips!! Don’t get me wrong, there are loads of really lovely genuine people out there too but generally its quite false.

I could go on for hours about this but I won’t. Life’s too short so just enjoy it and make the most of it. :)

People will gossip and rumour regardless so I reckon you should just do what you want and enjoy yourself...

At the end of the day dating in salsa is no different really to dating in general... if it goes wrong or becomes awkward etc you both still have to act like adults and just deal with it.

Tom
Member

I agree with Lisa. Assuming that you’re both single, go for it, but be discreet to avoid people gossiping about you. I know of several happy relationships that started on the Cardiff salsa scene (and at least two marriages that were broken up by it!).

Welsh Wizard
Member

Lisa... am confused... does this mean you will or won’t go out with me? ;-) Just kidding... (Don’t answer that!)...

Blokey... yes this is an age old question. Meeting eligible partners through salsa is not really the problem, it’s what happens when you are dating each other that can cause issues, from what I have seen this can boil down to two things...

1. The Green Eyed Monster! - If either you or your partner is the possessive/jealous type then be prepared for problems! We have all seen those couples where one or both suffer this problem. You can’t dance or talk to them for 5 minutes without getting uncomfortable looks from their partner. Once you are both alone be prepared for a fight about how you spent far too long dancing and chatting with so and so, or that it was a bit too close and their apparent interest in you seemed a bit unhealthy etc etc. This is salsa, your partner is going to dance with better dancers than yourself, younger than yourself and prettier than yourself. Get over it!!! If they are the type that are going to stray they will stray salsa or not. I have seen relationships like this where one partner uses their own insecurity/possessiveness/jealousy to control their partner to such an extent they are afraid to dance or even chat with anyone else, effectively holding them back from all the best things about salsa, improving your dance, making friends etc. We have all seen this and lost friends of the opposite gender in salsa because their partner doesn’t like them dancing/chatting to you too much. Folks you know when you are in this kind of relationship... why let it happen, and let yourself get treated like that, because of their hang-ups? It’s not love, it’s called control and you deserve better!

2. The Fall out! Now in an ideal lovely fluffy world we would all meet our first one true love, eventually marry them, get a mortgage have 2.2 kids and a dog called Fido and live happily ever after. However in the real world break ups occur! Now if you and your partner go to all the same salsa places, have all the same salsa friends etc... well I think you know what I am getting at. It makes things very awkward bumping into the ex, especially if you were the one that was dumped! I have unfortunately seen people give up salsa altogether because of the ‘ex factor’. It also puts your salsa friends in a rather difficult position. Basically it’s the equivalent of dating someone you work closely with... same issues!

Blokey …hope that hasn’t put you off matey, there are of course many happy fulfilled relationships too that have come out as a result of people meeting through salsa, where the relationship is full of love, trust, respect, and a mutual love of dance, where they both enjoy their nights out to the full and the dancing and the social side without any hiccups ….we have all seen these kind of couples too and it’s always great to see …. :)

Lisa

Crikey Welsh Wizard... what a post... but very true.

I love that you keep askin ;) 10 points for effort!! :)

It’s so difficult in salsa... I’ve recently scene marriages break up and also lost friends to salsa... sadly human nature takes over a lot and we all get jealous which causes huge problems... also things get misinterpreted very easily which can be really upsetting and damaging.

Salsa in particular is hard as its such a sensual dance and that often leads to chemistry... sometimes that chemisty is purely just 2 people bing lost in that moment of the dance and connecting... other times it’s not and it’s as though someone has slapped you in the face as you really weren’t expecting it and these are the hardest to deal with as potentially they can cause major problems.

I agree with Tom though, if you’re both single go for it and see what happens.

Just one more word of caution not just for you blokey but for everyone... just make sure they are single... I’ve been caught out by that... believing someone was single... falling pretty hard to discover they weren’t after all... and trust me that ain’t a nice place to be as not only do you have to try and ‘get over it’, you get the comments and looks from other people who think you’re a complete slapper or a cow who tried to break up a relationship.

But hey, don’t let us cynics deter you!!! :)

Have fun :)

SWS

Blimey, Blokey I think you’re over analysing the situation. However, seeing a post like this though, I new it wouldn’t belong before it sparked off some lively debate that has been lacking on this website for a while.

Before I stated Salsa, my opportunities to meet girls were at best limited. Mainly because of the line of work I’m in and also the sporting club I used to be a member of was all bit too competitive at the expense of being more socially orientated.

Salsa on the other hand is the perfect environment for dating provided you are sensible about it. I’m sure that there are many singles both male and female hoping to meet their other half on the Salsa scene. The main advantage being, that you instantly have a common interest which is always a good starting point.

I’ve asked some girls who I regularly dance with and who I know are already spoken for, why their fellers don’t come to Salsa and the responses vary from, ‘they don’t have time’, ‘they don’t have an interest in dancing’ or ‘they have tried it, but have given up because it’s too difficult’

I think it’s is real shame when couples don’t share the same leisure interests. And it seems that some girls are out enjoying themselves in the company of other guys and spending less time with the one they supposedly love which is a mystery to me. If I was the guy in their position I would want to know what was occupying so much of their time.

Of course you don’t want to be labeled as the guy who is there to pick up women, therefore as a bloke you must be subtle about it and not try to force the situation by asking out every girl you dance with. I recently sampled the Salsa scene in another city and because I was on my own and nobody new me I’m sure some females thought I had an agenda and turned me down when I asked them to just dance.

Being able to ask a girl to dance is great advantage, because girls love guys that can dance, at least I hope so. I don’t think I can dance very well but have recently had many encouraging comments from both the partners I dance with and occasionally from some of guys on the scene. One of the guy’s recently asked me why I was still single.

Yes people will inevitably gossip. The chemistry I feel with when I dance with one of my regular dance partners is amazing on the dance floor, but that’s where it’s ends and we both know that. A few of my friends have jumped to conclusions and made observations saying they thought we were an item but this is not the case.

Opportunities often present themselves out of the blue, when you least expect it. For example it may be the girl who does the asking for the dance, and if you click with them straight away and she fits the bill after you’ve asked a few routine questions, then why not ask her out? You only live one after all.

Too many times I have let opportunities slip and then find that I’m kicking myself for not making a move. Sometimes I’m almost certain that a girl must be spoken for, but it’s the small element of not knowing for sure, that persuades me to ask them. In the cases where they have been spoken for, they have usually said that they are very flattered that I have asked them. On a few other occasions the response has been, ‘I just want to be friends’ which is fine, and they have still accepted my invitation to ask them out.

Finally, for those of you are wondering what SWS means, it’s Single Welsh and Sexy.

Mr. K

Well. I met my girlfriend though salsa dancing. We were in a class, we talked, we became friends and now we’ve been together for nearly 3 years. It does make things easier cos we both love dancing, going to salsa weekends and also have common friends though salsa.

Salsa is a great way to meet new people and make friends and like with any other hobby, you can meet your next partners.

Just don’t go there expecting to pull or expecting women to jump on you instantly. Most girls can spot that from miles and you’ll get no where. I started going to salsa because I love dancing and wanted to keep fit.

Lisa and Tom are right in saying that there are some guys (and also girls) who pretend to be single thus complications later. Also everybody know your business (which I find it annoying) but you will find that all over the place - badminton clubs, drama groups etc.

Sometimes its like watch a TV Soap. Gossips, jealousy, BIG BIG EGOs, friendships, fun, relationships etc. And the list goes on.

All I wanted was to dance but you do get to see the full monty like a TV show.

One of the girls from Bristol used to say - If you take a break from salsa and come back in a year’s time, you still see the same people but different couples. TRUE!

Most importantly, have fun. I am sure that there is someone out there for you mate. Just don’t know if she is in the salsa scene or not! I am sure that you will meet loads of nice people and also make loads of friends.

In the mean time, keep dancing and keep smiling!

Dave

Hi, I just found this forum through a quick google seach of “salsa jealousy” --- so I can very much relate to Welsh Wizard’s post.

My girlfriend recently told me she has been going to a salsa club, and I didn’t think much of it. She is a dancer (at Uni) anyway, and she said it was harmless etc. Etc. Anyway, she then lent me a dvd called Along Came Polly because it has salsa in it. I watched and I had to stop it because I was just in shock. Is that a faithful recreation of salsa dancing??? I hope some of you have seen the film to know what I’m on about. But they were grabbing each other’s asses and grinding up against each other, all but having sex on the dance floor. Is this what my girlfriend has been doing at these clubs? If so, am I so unreasonable to be jealous and hurt???

Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

Welsh Wizard
Member

Hi Dave...

My post relates to those in the salsa scene. For the uninitiated it can be a bit of a revelation. Most people view a dance club situation as an often drunken, sleazy opportunity to be on the pull where accepting a dance with a stranger means they are interested in you. I would suggest you go to salsa lessons and enjoy a salsa night sometime and you will see that for the most part it is all about dancing with as many different people as possible (turning down a dance in salsa without a very good reason is considered bad etiquette, as is being drunk). It’s usually 3 minutes with one person on the dancefloor a thank you very much for the dance and then off to the next person. It’s also a very sociable and friendly scene with people making friends, and dancing more often with those they have clicked with on the dancefloor. And that’s it really, quite innocent, for the most part (there are always exceptions). You will come to realise this for yourself by giving it a go.

As for your g/f I think if she had anything to hide she wouldn’t have given you that video to watch! I wouldn’t go too much by what you see in it... the UK salsa scene can be very stiff upper lipped... not the vertical sex on the dancefloor that you see in the movies! Where that does happen its usually very experienced and/or confident dancers dancing with people they know well. (But again yes there are exceptions!)

My advice Dave... before you get all hot under the collar... come see for yourself, do a class and enjoy a salsa night out and that hopefully should allay your worries!

SWS

Hi Dave,

You’re one of those curious guy’s I was referring to in my post, saying if I was in your position I would want to know more about how my girlfriend is enjoying herself in the company of other guys. As I said in my post I think it’s a real shame when couples don’t share the same leisure interests.

However as Welsh Wizard suggests yes definitely come along and give it a go. I view dancing as an act, which at the end of day is just a bit of fun.

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